Compression Blast. Overpowered against soldiers.
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3key
3key
The compression blast shield area is too wide leaving no room whatsoever for splash damage. That's what's overpowered. Everything else, in my opinion, it's pretty balanced.
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Kissaki says:
not!
Robbaz says:
Finally another class the can do something against soldiers
streather says:
now think to yourself, how often are you going to face off with a single pyro vs a single soldier whilst not moving in game, the compression blast is that wide because otherwise it would be damned near impossible to use in game (i find it damned near impossible to reflect rockets with it as it is), remember in game, your moving and you wont be firing single rockets,
Acorn22 says:
Holy cow. Didn't know it was that big
3key says:
@Condor, i won't even bother with you. Just read more.
3key says:
@ suck_a_dick , first of all I play pyro too. Here's a video in case you doubt it http://www.wegame.com/watch/Pyro_in_a_sc... .
Now, about your other arguments I think they're fine, but none of them really justify having a compression blast shield being about 5-6 pyros wide which is the ONLY thing discussed here.
3key says:
@ BloodyIron : that's not the point. The ONLY thing that I'm presenting here is how wide the compression blast is. Absolutely nothing else. Now, if you could post arguments about why the compression blast "shield" should be that wide, then we can talk.
3key says:
SupremeO thanks for your opinion but focus on what's being discussed on this video. The ONLY thing being discussed here is: should the compression blast "shield" should be that wide?
3key says:
Sorry rabidchickin, the backburner has NOTHING to do with this video. Try the valve forums for those opinions. Now, about being pessimistic I don't think so. All I've presented is facts presented in a video. A pyro compression blast shouldn't have a "shield" 6 pyros wide. That's ALL that is being discussed here.
rabidchickin says:
The compression blast is completely balanced and if anything it makes the game more balanced. Now pyros actually have a chance to survive without being blasted to pieces by soldiers every time they spawn. Also the chances that you are going to see the rocket when you're focused on other combat is very unlikely and it would cause you to stop firing for a brief second and leave you vulnerable. The representation you've made is pessimistic. It's the backburner that is overpowered. In normal circumstances you can submerge the heavy and the medic in fire before the heavy has a chance to say "FIRE!" Tell me that's not overpowered.
chavez885 says:
good video, i agree 100% that blast is bullshit.
MMOBebe says:
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KaraBulut says:
Yeah I can see that in the vid but I rarely maneged to reflect rockets in gameplay
HitWithFish says:
it will all be balenced when valve is finished with all the weapon packs. (oh god I hope im right)
MMOBabe says:
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SupremeO says:
Gah, i hate it when people bitch about these weapon packs, its not like pyro is the only class with its weapon pack. Remember all the playtime the doctor suddenly had with the new stuff, i would go in a game, and both teams would have 8 Doctors. The soldier pack will balance it out. And the compression blast is pretty hard to time when theres more than one soldier shooting at you while moving, and you have to conserve your flame ammo anyway, or by the time you reflect the rocket and get in there, you have to attempt to axe or shotgun him.
iGrenade says:
Stfu MMOBabe, stop spamming WeGame with your shitty advertisements. SF is one of the worst games I've ever seen.
WeddingTakle says:
sure but have you ever tried using compression blast in a real game just about impossible
birdieman says:
soldiers lose either way
first weapon; compression blast seen here
new weapon; they have more health than you and are faster and they can retreat and use their flare gun
nightcall says:
That is wide
Zekeon says:
sht man...
w4rp says:
LO!L
BloodyIron says:
neilA, if you think CS is so good, why don't you stop playing TF2?
Either adapt with the game, go complain elsewhere, or play something else.
neila says:
my english is small so talk little plz and go eat some legs
Darkside55 says:
"Why CS is so good game?"
Lol.
"No stupid million weapons"
Lol.
"Clear gameplay"
LOL!
Enjoy your m4 and AK-47 only game. I guess it's too hard to keep track of at MOST six weapons per class; better to just stick to two different weapons and a deagle.
neila says:
i hate new weapons at all! Tf2 will become like mmorpg :/ why CS is so good game? koz no stupid milion weapons and clear gameplay.
BloodyIron says:
Overpowered whatever. If you didn't wait as long as the fool in the video to fire the second rocket you would have seen that the cooldown for the compression blast IS LONGER THAN THE COOLDOWN FOR THE ROCKETLAUNCHER.
Not overpowered.
MASA says:
That's crazy.
PsycoZombie says:
Wow,so much argument over a fucking video.Grow up,people,Condor in particular.
Darkside55 says:
As a soldier, playing in these almost all-pyro servers now that everyone's grinding for achievements, I can say that the compression blast poses absolutely no threat.
Bring it on, maggots.
Live2bcool says:
I totally agree with level128. I used to like the Pyro, but NOW I HATE HER! O_O
rerunx5 says:
It's easy to reflect if standing still but difficult to reflect rockets when in combat ie. moving around.
Airdoo says:
I find it balanced in all areas since the Pyro has the shortest range for it's main attack making it very vulnerable to any long range attack, such as a rocket. Also the Pyro is one of the easiest classes to pick up but one of the harder to master. IMO
suck_a_dick says:
holy shit fucking cry more faggot
for one, the rocket launcher's rate of fire is faster than the air compression blast, meaing if you fire them one after the other they can't deflect them all.
second, it takes 25 ammo to do a blast. That's EIGHT blasts maximum, less if the pyro has shot even 1 ammo count of fire
third, in the heat of a large battle, the pyro isn't going to be able to see and defelct every one of your rockets
you are just a shitty soldier who is mad that they can't just point at their feet and click to win. the pyro can actually hold it's own in a firefight now. it's not just a free kill
maybe try employing, oh, i don't know, a little fucking skill and thought into your game. soldier is my 2nd least played class and during the pyro craze i've still be racking up a 4-1 ratio.
reDust says:
bawwwwwwwwww
Raxerm says:
Well, i've never tried to upgrades yet since pyro archievements are a serious waste of time, since i already think the most weapons are unbalanced..
Ryudan says:
Pyro is not overpowered.... try to use it in combat and u'll see that not many pyros think or using it
level128 says:
the pyro went from cool to being a bitch
Izzay says:
Condor you retard...!
Condor says:
GMan why not make a video and show us how it done instead? MOVE around and try reflect those rockets lol
ps. check my video. I > U anyway :p
theineffablebob says:
In real-world applications, however, the compression air blast is fairly difficult to do. It requires good timing and isn't particularly effective when projectiles are flying at you from every direction. It's also somewhat difficult to aim the reflected projectiles. If timed right, however, it can be very deadly at close range. I've been killed a couple times as a Soldier because of a well-timed reflection.
OreoTheWolf says:
Pyro was pretty strong before. Now it's just ridiculous. With damage dropoff on the flame removed, it becomes a pure rape stick, allowing even the newest players to the game to force back every other class in fear of damage.
GMan says:
condor, the point of this video is to show that the area covered is too large, which it is.
But hey, if you think you got something, take me or thricky on sometime
Condor says:
wow what a bunch of noobs. Try moving around and reflect those rocket morons.
and stop crying overpower. You would probably spray n pray on your pyro if you see a soldier heading your way instead using compressed air.. Again NOOB
everyone point and laugh 3key and that below noob :P
PsycoZombie says:
Your right,that's EXTEMLY overpowered.Damn Pyros.
Pyro reflectin mah rocket!