We all know this basically means that this conversation will end in one of us having to produce an extraordinary piece of work in order to prove a point >.>

*backs away

Machinima mode in uncharted 2,film theatre in Halo 3,it wouldn't surprise me to see something in Modern Warfare 2 if there was a secret mode for that (like the 3rd person feature).
Machinima will only grow if the developers create the gamespace and utilities for gamers to use in order to create machinima,it's as simple as that.
Rockstar created (for the pc version) the video editor and Rockstar social club,where people have made a lot of good movies,(go see machinima.com for an outstanding max payne style machinima located in gta 4 featured videos).
But the shame here is that you require a good pc to run gta 4 on the pc,it's horrible to install,and was a bad port.

We need one good game to come out,where it gives you the tools and scope to do it,unfortunately Uncharted 2 seems to have done that,allowing you to play animations and expressions at a button press,auto lip synching with a headset,but players on the playstation 3 don't seem to care much about machinima,I've seen a lot of Killzone 2 stuff,and a few things with Metal Gear Solid 4,but generally speaking,I don't know of a lot of playstation 3 machinimas,Halo and pc games seem to be the defining platforms and software to make machinima with.

My point basically is,we need a LOT more games that have machinima type modes in them if this is going to truly escalate further,and companies need to create special legal agreements in the EULA for allowing machinima,or at least state so on their site,so people who shy away might not do so once they know where they stand.

Everyone's right about getting a 260 or a ati 4800 series stuff,but then like I read somewhere above,if all you want to play is tf2,you might as well just shell out for a cheap 8600gt or something,which literally are bought as doorstops now,but they run the last generation fine (tf2,hl2:e2 etc) so that would be fine,and you could hold on to your money until just after xmas when windows 7 and dx11 "hopefully" gives us our real next gen experience,and the dx11 cards come rolling in.

Plus if I'm correct a lot of 8600s don't have 4 or 6 power pin inputs,so you might not need a better psu if the one you have at the moment could take the 8600 on board.
At the end of the day,if you're going to be buying more games up until xmas,get an ati 4850 or whatever they're shifting these days,if you're happy with tf2 until dx11 establishes itself,then wait till after xmas (all dx10 cards are compatible with dx11 if I remember correctly anyway)

Awesome,I'll join,add Xenithar when you've got the time

Wow what a bunch of crybabies,no offense,you get your character to 80,what cooler way to test you out than to destroy azeroth and put you inside a huge big mess and make you deal with it,the worlds in trouble,and you're supposed to be protecting it etc,what more do you want from an experience?
It's obvious they'll put it back together after a certain amount of expansions anyway,it's probably just temporary at best,it feels like it anyway.

Ye it's usefull

Ye it's very good,loving it :)
Hope it does all end in one big thing

Garry's Mod RP can be fun,own a shop,sell stuff etc

http://www.machinima.com

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